« What Do Women Want? Ask Us! | Main | Spanx »

August 27, 2007

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d8341c011b53ef00e54ee356e08834

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference No Matter How Much You Suck at Writing - Write Your Own Website Copy:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Hi Lena,

I think your article is brilliant! I am trying to write my own copy as well.

However, I lack confidence in my grammar skills. No, I don't mean my spelling or simple sentence structures. Rather, I was not taught professional grammar in a NYC public school. I acknowledge that I won't be able to write competitively well enough until I teach myself grammar and practice my writing.

My suggestions to those who have the same dilemma as me is to go and read a grammar book (such as "The Elements of Style" by E.G. White).

Hopefully, one day none of us will have to rely too much on professiona copywriters if we can develop our writing skills!

But Lena, I know too, too many folks who did not pass 4th grade English. They CAN'T write anything, let alone their own story. I get your point, though. The story-teller is the BEST person to tell the story. I agree. And, today, they can tell it out loud, tape it, and let a competent copy writer do the writing. Now... heaven help us when a bad story-teller meets a bad copy writer! Oh my!

I want to make two things perfectly clear here:

1) I'm not talking about only tech companies.

2) If anyone reads what I wrote and gets from it that I think companies - in any industry - should write their own copy, then you didn't read what I wrote.

I said it in my blog post AND in my reply comments that I think companies should write their own copy so that they can get the core of their story on paper - and read the following very carefully now - AND THEN GET A COMPETENT COPYWRITER TO EDIT/REWRITE THE COPY.

I'm not sure what's getting lost in translation here but I can't write in more plain English than this.

Thanks for everyone's comments!

-Lena

This is a great discussion. I, personally, don't think very many tech companies are competent enough to write their own copy. They are, however, competent enough to read the copy from whatever copywriter they hired to write the copy. (too many 'copys' in this note!)

I got my start writing web copy - without using confusing buzz words that didn't really mean anything. But, I was often overruled by the powers to be - and the bad copy they wrote went up on the web, and it made me burning mad...because it made me look bad. Folks who knew I was the writer on that job, had to wonder what I was thinking!

Meanwhile, in a bloggy world like this one, using a conversational tone is encouraged - however, too many people take that so far the other way, their writing is confusing and incomprehensible. Often, when we 'talk' we infer understanding of the subject by our tone of voice, or by expecting the listener to remember what we said three paragraphs ago. On the net, a new visitor to your blog or website was not part of that conversation so... you need to remind them of what you're talking about.

There's a very fine line here. Lena, I agree with the principle of what you're saying, but I disagree with your advice: I do not think most website owners should write their own copy. Dictate it, maybe. And then let a professional (who knows better than to write "type by numbers copy" as Mary says), do the rest.

Bonnie,

Having "edited" (re-written from scratch) large chunks of blah-blah in my time - I agree that some people probably shouldn't even try - but then again...if they at least try then: A. They'll feel like they contributed; B. They'll have a greater appreciation for a professional's work...and it'll get them to thinking about what needs to be said.

I believe the reason so many people "wig out" re writing is that they don't do much of it - and it reminds them of all that English homework they so hated. (I was a real geek, I loved English...and history...and all those useless "thinking" classes ;-)

Bonnie:

I agree, I don't want people to write it themselves and then not have someone edit it, hence my recommendation that they get someone to spruce it up and edit it once they're done.

I don't think anyone can tell your story quite like you can and again, even if your writing is bad - somethings you just can't outsource totally...web copy is one of those things. Financial management is another.

If you care about your brand, it requires you to be hands-on from the start...and, in my professional opinion, that means taking a stab at the copy on your own and then calling in the pros.

I don't think that everyone who writes their own copy will not have the money to pay someone to edit it. Maybe some people might want to save money but I don't write my posts for people like that - I write my posts for people who want to invest in the growth of their business the right way.

I love what you have to say about people writing how they talk. Our clients often tell me that they can hear me saying the words I type in my email communication to them, so I must be doing something right. :)

Why people tend to 'wig out' when they have to write something, I don't know. I guess they figure that if you write something - especially nowadays - it's a good chance that it'll be around for posterity. Then I guess they think, if you say saomthing, there's a good chance no one will remember it after 5 minutes.

Thanks for chiming in!

-Lena

Or... this could be a horrible example of what you're suggesting people do... writing their own copy (but without having anyone edit it!).

I suspect that if people are going to write their own copy vs hiring a copywriter, they're NOT likely to hire an editor, either. (They're writing it themselves to save money and/or because they think they can write... hiring an editor wouldn't make sense to these dilusional souls.)

Personally, I think they'd have better results hiring a copywriter (a good one) right from that start, rather than trying to write it on their own, getting feedback that it sucks, and then hiring someone to "edit" (fix) it.

In an ideal world, people would write like they talk. (I've been trying to get people where I work to do that for a LONG time.) But when they go from talking to writing, it's like they become possessed by some frightening cross between a lawyer and an engineer, and they feel the need to "impress" people instead of simply communicate with them.

It's enough to give you nightmares. :-)

Mary:

Absolutely!

I can't stress enough that it does NOT matter whether you can write or not. The world wouldn't have editors if everyone was an Ernest Hemingway for Pete's sake!

Write what you can and get help with the rest. As Marcus Buckingham would say: don't waste time trying to improve weaknesses.

As for the companies that are hired and then write this junk? I just don't know what to say for them. It's sad that some people are so desperate for a check that they produce business drivel and pass it off to an unsuspecting client as quality content. Ugh!

Thanks for commenting...

-Lena

Lena,

Hear! Hear! And, it's okay if your writing sucks, if you can say why somebody should care - a professional marketer can do the rest.

I've worked with a number of clients who couldn't write well (to put it mildly) but they were great once you got them talking.

P.S. And shame on all those so-called marketing communications experts out there that take good money to write sucky, type by numbers copy!

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Subscribe to
Lip-Sticking

Recognition

**********


Good Books, Great Information

Small Business Advice

Bloogz

Blogwise


  • Listed on Blogwise

More blog linking

Blogocracy

Blogarama


  • Blogarama - The Blog Directory

  • Blogcritics: news and reviews

Blog Widget by LinkWithin

Free Downloads

  • Free Business and Tech Magazines and eBooks

Yvonne's Twitter Updates

    follow me on Twitter
    Blog powered by TypePad

    • Blog Design and Social Media Consulting by WME Blogs (www.WMEBlogs.com)