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March 24, 2008

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@Styleosophy:

Now THAT'S what I like to hear!

Give 'em hell!

This past Monday, I was asked to develop a database, by a guy who is running for alderman....and all I could think about was this post.

Silly me...when I asked him how much the project was paying, he looked at me like I had spit on him.

He said, "there is no payment. Can't you help a brother out?"

I laughed out loud. And then I turned him down.

We're (women) still there because that's what WE let happen. Many of us don't know the value (or even power) of our knowledge, so we give it away.

@Julie:

Ahhhh, I get it. Thanks for clarifying.

I agree. What I've found is that many people who harp on and on about morals and sit in judgment of others are usually deflecting in hopes that no one notices the crud under their own fingernails.

Judge not, lest ye be judged....people in glass houses...yada, yada...

Thanks for responding and giving me the opportunity to clarify as my comment
was geared more toward the administration in general rather than Paterson
specifically. Sptizer, of course, was foremost in my thoughts. What I
should have said is "How dare this administration?" Holding others to a
high moral standard, while to the contrary, continuing to conduct themselves
in a less than unscrupulous manner. Julie for WOW!

@Michelle:

I know what you mean, many places aren't supportive of women's claims, but I don't put all the blame on the companies, I put the blame on the women who stay and work there as well.

The reality is we all have choices to make and, aside from a violent attack, no one can do to us what we don't allow. Now, it might be said that it's not easy to make stink or leave a job. One has bills to pay, children to feed, etc. Well, there are laws for that reason AND this is what I mean by women not being prepared when it comes to finances. We only truly have the power to say 'Yes', when we have the leeway to say 'No'. I'm talking about savings, rainy day money, or whatever you want to call it. This is 2008 and women still shouldn't be resting on 1988 excuses for not being prepared. It might sound harsh, but this is tough love.

So, while it might be easy to blame companies, we also need to look at the role that women play when we are complacent, don't stand up for ourselves...and, yes, ask for less money than we know we deserve.

Thanks for reading and commenting!

@Julie:

Thanks for commenting.

I don't quite know what you mean by "how dare he?"

Is there something special about Paterson that would preclude him from doing what most people/businesses try to do - shortchange women entrepreneurs.

I mean, I know the scenario itself is upsetting, but you keep saying "how dare he?"

What about what Paterson did re: the $500 database payment really gets under your skin?

Love this entry! Like you, I try not to let the daily news consume me and rarely watch it. However, when this piece broke, I got all fired up. Of all people...How dare he?...actually, let's not even go there...and as women, many of us have experienced working in male dominated industries, being underpaid, but not even realizing it...Of all people, How dare he? Julie for WOW!

Some places support women when they tell nasty guys to bugger off, and some don't.

I worked in a place where I was told that if I reported my boss's nasty advances to the corporate higher ups, it would basically go right back to him. Fun.

$500 for database work is weak.

@Mary Hunt:

This is exactly the reason that so many women have trouble building successful companies that last.

Who cares how long it takes you to do a job...or even if it's easy for you to do? That's not the basis for a strong pricing model for a business - not one that wants to be around for the long haul anyway.

Trading time for money and energy for money is the fast way to the poor house.

A solid pricing structure is always based on the value you deliver to the client. I always tell our clients that they don't pay us for our time spent. They pay us for bringing the value to the table of having the level of experience that allows us to do things faster and more efficiently. THAT'S the value proposition for the client and that's where the money is.

Thanks for reading and commenting!

Maybe women change less for database management than other things because it isn't as difficult to do...

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